One of the wonders of social media is that you run across people you most likely would not have met. I had the pleasure of running across Cynthia Stott, a former Federal Reserve employee who had worked as an analyst and a consumer protection examiner. Now she works as a speaker coach and Global Visibility Expert and Mentor. When I first talked with her, I found myself skeptical. The more the interview progressed, the more I believed she may be on to something with the different frequencies of emotions. More info about her can be found on her website or Twitter.
JJ: Please tell me a little bit about what first prompted you to deal with your anxiety.
CS: I have had to deal with anxiety and phobias all my life – well until they disappeared before I was 40. I did some hypnotherapy and behavioral therapy to work on my phobias in my late teens and early 20s. My phobias really affected all areas of my life. The therapies I did helped me to “manage” my fears, but they stuck with me till I was nearly 40 years old when I found a different technique.
I was really the most afraid person I’ve ever met. In fact one of my best friends in college used to call me a “wuss” – she wasn’t being mean she was just being truthful. My fear stopped me from doing many things. In fact when I joined the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco in 1994, I wanted to join Toastmasters to learn to speak better. I didn’t join for another 13 years because I was stopped by my fear.
JJ: What in retrospect do you most regret your fear prevented you from doing?
CS: My fears prevented me from doing a lot of things. In fact when I went to the Seattle Space Needle with my late husband I hugged the wall and was terrified to approach the closed window. Everything I did I had to think about if I was going to encounter something I was afraid of-and that was a lot of things because I was afraid of just about everything.
JJ: Do you feel your fears increased in number over time?
CS: Interesting question about my fears increasing over time. I think I just identified more of them as fears as I went along and even after I overcame them. It was hard for me to separate them into specific fears because I was afraid of everything. In the end I’ve identified five actual phobias that I have overcome: the fear of heights, public speaking, visibility, dancing in public and spiders.
JJ: Would you mind sharing what worked for you?
CS: To put it simply, growing my consciousness. Initially I did this the “old-fashioned way” and it was very difficult. I became a primal scream instructor and laid on the floor with my legs in the air for 45 minutes screaming like a banshee. Not something I would recommend to others. Very difficult on the body and even on the psyche. Then I found an easier method. This is the one I now use on my clients. Not painful, in fact relaxing and highly effective.
JJ: Are you at liberty to talk more about this method?
CS: Yes. I use a number of modalities combined into my own unique method. I am not a therapist or hypnotherapist. I am an energy healer. I use energy to shift the consciousness and release the emotional charge from painful memories and events. I come with a “disclaimer” in that very often you can fall into a deep sleep or altered state when we do this work. So I require all my clients to lie down while we do this work over the phone. I have clients in every US time zone and around the globe. One of my clients had a deep fear and phobia of swimming in the deep end of the pool. In fact, she even owned a pool but she wouldn’t go in the deep end. After one session, she swam with the wild dolphins in the open ocean and had no fear.
JJ: I can only imagine how liberating that would be.
CS: Very! It is so liberating, especially when you don’t “remember” that you had a specific fear. Like the time I was hiking down airport mesa in Sedona. I had been doing yoga postures and meditating right on the edge of the 1500 foot drop. On the way down from the Mesa, I suddenly remembered, “I’m supposed to be afraid of heights!” It was the strangest feeling, a bit of an identity crisis but in a good way.
JJ: Would you mind telling me a little more about how you started your practice?
CS: Well, my original practice, with very hard methods, was because my husband passed away suddenly while I was on a business trip. It was very devastating and change my Life in an instant. Three weeks after his death, I found this very unique Korean style yoga group with unusual and powerful methods. I trained with them many times in Sedona, New York, Canada and even went to Korea three times.
JJ: What experience have you had shifting anxiety into excitement?
CS: Interesting question. Yes, the two can be linked! I have a mindset program for speakers and in one of the modules you can shift your fear of speaking into enthusiasm. To me it’s all about consciousness. The consciousness of curiosity, enthusiasm and excitement are a much higher vibration than anxiety and fear. I used to be terrified to speak in public, now I am enthusiastic to speak and to teach others how to speak! I have won many speech contest and even hold the title “district champion” evaluator in Toastmasters.
JJ: When you mention higher vibration, would you mind telling me more? Does this somehow tie into chakras?
CS: In a way, it does tie into chakras. They are the major energy centers in the body. I also work with chakras directly in one of my programs. It is an in-person intensive for speakers to release the emotional charge from past events and clear the throat chakra so they can more easily speak their message clearly and authentically. However, when I’m talking about “vibration” I’m really talking about consciousness and that overall sense of well-being. There is a physical feeling that you feel in your body when your vibration is raised. It’s a feeling of expansiveness, openness and you can even have tingling sensations-sometimes called goosebumps or God bumps-all over your body. Are you familiar with Dr. David Hawkins and his book “Power vs. Force”?
JJ: I am not. I will have to add it to my list…
CS: In that book he shares the “scale of consciousness” and talks about the different levels having “lux” which is a packet of energy or light. The scale is similar to the Abraham-Hicks emotional guidance scale.
JJ: I will have to read it… scoping it out on Amazon now…
CS: You can actually look up Dr. Hawkins Scale of Consciousness on the Internet and see the scale directly. The lowest vibration on the scale is shame with a LUX of 20. Fear is at 100, anger is at 150 and courage is at 200. Courage is where you start to become a positive influence on yourself and others. Since anger is a higher vibration than fear, 150 versus 100, it’s actually healthier for you and others to be in anger then it is to be in fear. Interestingly enough, sadness and grief are even lower than fear. I believe this is why most psychologist would agree that a person is coming out of their grief when they can express their anger.
JJ: I will have to get more familiar how it works, but shame can be an extremely powerful and debilitating force.
CS: Once you get to the level of coverage at 200, then you can move into the higher vibrations of peace love joy and even enlightenment that starts at 700 to 1000 LUX. I usually advise my clients that when they are feeling sadness or fear or any other negative emotion, to reach for anger. This is the opposite of what most people would advise. However, it is a much higher vibration. I do not recommend staying there though. Once you get to anger, then reach for the courage to get curious about what you are angry about. Once you shift to curiosity, it’s easier to figure out how to make a change about what you’re angry about.
I’ve even observed anger save the life of an 89-year-old woman. Yes, shame and regret can be very debilitating. In fact that’s what was going on for this 89-year-old woman. She had given up and was literally on her deathbed. She was full of remorse and sadness. Then when she became angry, it gave her the power to get out of bed on her own and go and yell at the person who made her angry. Now, her anger was based on a misunderstanding, I don’t recommend intentionally angering an elderly or sick person, but this time it worked wonderfully. She lived another 6 years and with a much higher quality of life. These levels can also be shown through Kinesiology, otherwise known as “muscle testing”-have you heard of this?
JJ: Would this somehow relate to dancing?
CS: My experience with dancing was the same as my other four fears. It all changed when I changed my consciousness and it happened quite “automatically” – in fact I am now known for my dancing on stage internationally. It is one of my greatest passions!
JJ: We are nearing our hour… Would you mind sharing how one shifts from using tricks to no longer being afraid? I think I have had that experience this past year with walking across bridges…
CS: Well, I’m not sure if I can explain it in the next nine minutes. And it’s not really about explaining, it’s about experience. The experience of raising your consciousness. It’s like flipping a switch deep in your subconscious mind and expanding your awareness. Interestingly enough four out of my five phobias are now some of my deepest passions. I think I always was passionate about them, but I was just blocked by my fears. Most fears are related to past traumatic experiences.
In my method, I support you to release the emotional charge from those past traumatic experiences and this automatically lifts the fear. Transformation always happens in the moment. But when dealing with fears, we must first be ready to release them. Fortunately, all it takes is your conscious permission in order to be ready. The simple phrase, “Yes, that’s for me!” is all it takes. Then you can go through the simple and relaxing process, even in your sleep, and your fears and consciousness will shift.